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Jake Roberts says that Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels were the worst champions of all time

WWE Hall of Famer, Jake ‘The Snake’ Roberts, was recently in conversation with FlipDaScript Podcast and during the interview, Roberts gave his opinion on why feels Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels are the two worst WWE Champions of all time.

During the Attitude Era, both Hart and Michaels were considered to be two of WWE’s most decorated champions of all time, with ‘The Hitman’ having held the WWF Championship on five different occasions, whereas, Michaels winning the title three times in his career.

Roberts, who said that he didn’t win the WWE Championship because his career didn’t need it, went on record to claim that both Hart and Michaels needed the titles “because nobody paid attention to them”.

“You check the books, man, check the books. Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels were the worst Champions of all. They did not put money in the bank.”

Currently working as Lance Archer’s manager in AEW, Jake ‘The Snake’ Roberts is expected to be a regular part of AEW TV, considering the fact that Archer is a huge signing for the promotion.


  • MT McGee

    I never ONCE said ” I WISH you get corona virus”. What I HAVE said is “you DO have corona virus”. That’s two different things. Words mean something. I have better things to do with my time than break sentences into paragraphs on a meaningless website. Maybe you don’t, but that’s you.

  • MT McGee

    Ronda should have been the one to end Asuka’s steak. charlotte should have been the first one to beat Ronda, until Becky blew up. That way you have three women on top and the fans don’t know who is really on the top of the heap. Ronda beats Asuka, Asuka beats charlotte, charlotte beats Ronda. Who’s really the top dog then? Then no one looks less than. On what ppv did charlotte take Carmella’s finisher and get pinned clean? I have looked at every single ppv result since charlotte’s debut and I can’t find one single time where she took a finisher on ppv and got pinned clean. Yes, she is supposed to be the female version of ric, what’s your point? That’s stupid. Yes, when it comes to her reaction in matches, I do blame her. When I know she’s going to lose the match before it starts because she has boo-boo face, that’s her fault. When it comes to match results, you can’t tell she ever ONCE went to Vince and said “it’s wrong that I win this match.” when the right thing to do was for her to lose.

  • Pierrepoint

    You have multiple times wished the corona virus and other ailments or disease on posters here.

    Oh and typing out a rambling 10+ sentence reply without breaking up your thoughts into coherent paragraphs is another sign of lack of proper command of the English language.

  • Pierrepoint

    ‘Deserve’ is hard to quantify when it comes to WWE, because of who run it. I’m not privy to how things are determined there, as I guess neither are you.

    Someone had to end Asuka’s streak, why not Charlotte?

    She took a finisher from Carmella to lose the title. Isn’t her gimmick supposed to be the female version of her dad?

    She has the Figure 8, Natural Selection, as her main finishing moves.

    You’re blaming her for the matches, why? It’s the writers that decide the storylines for the most part, not the wrestlers.

  • MT McGee

    I didn’t wish anyone dead, you need to learn to read what’s there instead of what you want to be there. I simply said he would be. I never said “I wish you were dead.” And he’s not a good person. Good people don’t make worthless posts after worthless post the way he did attacking me. Name calling and insults? Please. I’m not the one who started with that.

  • MT McGee

    “did her time”? Is NXT prison? I know why they pushed Nikki, that was clear. charlotte should not have won the title. She did not deserve to beat Asuka for the title going into last year’s Mania. She did not deserve to be the first post-Diva champion. Every storyline she is in she is either the champ or challenging for a title and that is wrong She’s not a very good wrestler and there is not one single thing original about her gimmick. She doesn’t deserve to be a 10 time champ. She doesn’t deserve to be a 5 time champ. She had no business beating Asuka and ending her streak, that is poor booking by an out of touch old man and she didn’t have enough respect for the business to refuse to go over. You can always tell at the start of the match whether charlotte is winning or losing by her face, always. charlotte has NEVER paid her dues on the main roster. She has NEVER taken a finisher and been cleaned in a one on one match one ppv. Not once; I have gone back and looked. That is wrong. All the moves? What moves? The stuff she stole from her old man? The moonsault she never hits properly? What moves?

  • Brian

    Seriously? You go around wishing people to be dead, and you’re accusing anyone else of not being ‘a good person’?

    You want to have a rational discussion, lay out your reasoning and we’ll debate it. Leave the school yard name calling out of it, and start acting like an adult.

    If you can…

  • Brian

    How do you figure that? Charlotte did her time in NXT, and was brought up to the main roster, and the title was put on her, I believe mainly because of the injury to Nikki Bella. They pushed Nikki to erase AJ Lee’s title reign record, probably because of Lee being CM Punk’s wife, and wanted a dig at Punk for leaving.

    They downplayed Charlottle’s relationship with Ric Flair for the most part until after she had the title. Charlotte was ‘damned if she did/damned if she didn’t’ with the inevitable comparisions to her father. So someone decided she should embrace the Flair angle.

    I’ve never heard of any issues with attitude backstage, being a prima donna etc.Charlotte seems to be an accomplished professional, with all the moves anyone could ever ask for in a professional wrestler.

  • MT McGee

    Let’s take charlotte, for example. All you have to do is look at her entitlement issues, the fact she hasn’t earned one damn thing in the wrestling world, and the fact she is overpushed, and you know she is trash. You only think that to keep yourself from swallowing that bottle of aspirin.

  • MT McGee

    I hope some day you’re not so hateful, but you already have covid and will be dead within a month, so I’m not holding out hope on you becoming a good person.

  • Pierrepoint

    Oh now comes the martyr card. What’s next, you’ll start comparing yourself to Jesus?

  • Pierrepoint

    Your only comment was to call everyone trash. How you figure that’s defending yourself is beyond me. Probably your limited vocabulary prevents anything more.

  • MT McGee

    Wrong, my posts are deleted because instead of doing the right thing and banning you, I have my comments deleted.

  • MT McGee

    Sure I have, you just can’t accept the truth because you live in a fantasy world where you believe you matter. Not surprising when you are inferior.

  • Brian

    Oh now you’re the victim, poor poor pitiful you. Your comments are being deleted because you’re a foul mouthed poster.

  • Brian

    You haven’t defended anything. Not surprising with your limited ability with the English language.

  • MT McGee

    Like I said before, just because you don’t like the truth doesn’t mean it isn’t so. You really aren’t that bright.

  • Pierrepoint

    What defence? Your only comment is that everyone was trash.

    Not only have you no grasp of the English language, you apparently can’t put a coherent thought together.

  • MT McGee

    I see that killswitch has been busy this morning. However, like
    usual, instead of getting rid of the problem, pierre and brian, he’s
    been deleting comments made by the victim, me. Typical wrestling-edge bullcrap. You need to be canned, dude.

  • MT McGee

    You keep running your mouth proving how wrong you are time and again. I have defended myself, you just can’t accept the truth.

  • Brian

    I can and I will. Your English language skills are barely at a grade school level.

    The fact you can’t defend yourself and have to resort to name calling and swearing simply proves my point.

  • MT McGee

    You don’t get to tell me what to do. You have no right to exist. Who and how you are is wrong and your beliefs have zero merit. Everything you stand for and believe in is wrong. You only prove your ignorance by saying that I am. You choose to be less than. Your life has zero value and you are a waste of resources.

  • Pierrepoint

    You don’t even know the difference between the two. If you had bothered to actually read what you were typing, the proper use would gave been to either use hypocritical or add an a, you did neither. Thus, as I pointed out, you can’t use the English language properly.

    Try going back to public school and learn.

    You didn’t reply to a question when using Reigns. And just because you don’t respect Charlotte, doesn’t mean you get to re-write the proper use of the English language.

    You would know that if you’d bothered to learn the proper use of the English language, which you obviously didn’t, or haven’t.

    Same with Wolf Blitzer, whoever that is. You’re obviously trying to be insulting, but it just shows your ignorance, nothing more.

  • MT McGee

    No, I used the word hypocrite correctly, as you accused me of throwing
    insults and said that only losers did that, which, if true, makes you a
    loser and a hypocrite. I don’t respect charlotte, therefore I do not
    capitalize her name. Reigns is a sentence when it is a response to a
    question, dummy. I’m not threatening you at all, fool. I’m just saying
    you got something to say, come at me. When you grow up and live in the
    real world instead of living in a country with monopoly money sucking
    at wolf blitzer’s mantit, you might actually matter. Until then, have fun
    dying of corona under socialism, you meaningless b*tch.

  • Pierrepoint

    Geez, where does one start, nee, used the word hypocrite inaccurately, charlotte, Reigns as a sentence, would you like me to go on? I’ve seen 1st graders with better command of the English language and sentence structure than you do.

    Now you’re uttering threats, typical neanderthal attitude. Oh wait, that would mean leaving your basement and coming out into the real world.

    You been given almost a dozen examples, and your only counter was they were all trash. I’m assuming that’s the limit of your vocabulary.

    And considering this site has a spell checker, that means you’re too stupid to understand what the red line under a word means.

  • MT McGee

    I defy you to point to one word I misspelled, boy. My thoughts are totally coherent, you must just not be smart enough to process them. And you started throwing the insults first, b*tch. As for hiding? You tell me when and where, I’ll show you just how much I hide. You haven’t uttered one word of truth, just a bunch of meaningless bullsh*t.

  • Brian

    Command of the English language? You can’t spell, you can’t put together a coherent thought without butching the sentence.

    You can’t defend your position, so you resort to name calling, you’re the typical keyboard warrior, who hides behind his keyboard and hurls insults when confronted with the truth.

  • MT McGee

    Yes, booed out of the building. Or did you forget about that ppv main event where Reigns went over in the final match when he should have lost and people were leaving before the final bell even rang. I have a better command of the English language than you. I honestly hope you get covid 19, maybe it will knock you down a few pegs and you learn your place in life.

  • Pierrepoint

    Booed out of the building? Are you sure you’re actually watching WWE shows?

    Try learning to correspond in the English language. It’s like I’m corresponding with a 5 year old.

  • MT McGee

    And he gets booed out of the building. It doesn’t matter where you fall on the card, it matters how the fans respond and they reject him outright. You’re pathetic and hypocrite.

  • Pierrepoint

    Reigns is a failure?? Man has been main eventing almost continuously, with the exception of his illness.

    Try using logic rather than resorting to name calling, which all losers do.

  • MT McGee

    Reigns. It failed, but he needed the belt. Del Rio, again, failed, but he needed the belt. I could go on and on, but I have better things to do than waste my time with a pissant like you.

  • Brian

    You haven’t given ONE example of someone who needed the belt to be put over.

    I’ve given almost a dozen examples of those who were champions who obviously didn’t need the belt to be put over.

    Put up or shut up.

  • MT McGee

    I don’t have excuses, you just don’t care to hear the truth

  • Pierrepoint

    Wow you’ve got an excuse for everything.

  • MT McGee

    Cena is very over rated, Orton is lazy, charlotte is most definitely trash and there is a special place in hell for Moolah. You have no reason for being.

  • Brian

    So John Cena, HHH, Randy Orton, Charlotte Flair, Moolah, all these multiple time champions are all trash and needed the belt to help them succeed also?

    Your logic and argument are leaking like a sieve.

  • MT McGee

    Flair is trash. He’s a terrible human being and had the same match about a thousand times. But go ahead, stay on your knees for that load that Bret has waiting for you.

  • Brian

    By all means, take the word of a drug addict and drunk over the facts.

    Oh, and a washed up wrestler desperate for attention so he can make one last dollar.

    By your logic, Ric Flair must have been the worst wrestler ever, being they had to put the title on him 16 times to get him over.

  • MT McGee

    I don’t care if you think it’s ridiculous, it’s the truth. Piper knew more about the business than you ever will and said that same thing.

  • Pierrepoint

    That logic is ridiculous. Hogan wasn’t champion for 4 years because he needed the belt to make him popular. Lesnar doesn’t need the belt to make him popular either. Neither does Becky Lynch, or Charlotte Flair for that matter.

  • MT McGee

    He, like Piper, knew you put a belt on a guy to get the guy over. If he’s already over huge, like Jake and Piper were, there’s no need to put the belt on them. They don’t nee the belt.

  • Brian

    And what would Jake know about being champion?

  • Rinn13

    Yup. Bret definitely never sold out Wembly F***ing Stadium, main eventing against British Bulldog over the INTERCONTINENTAL title. He definitely definitely didn’t grow Canadian and other international lives gates and fanbases in the 90s, which helped WWF weather it’s major dip in US attendance due to roid scandals. Bret was such a non-draw that he main-evented three Wrestlemanias. He was one of the top stars and merch sellers of the 90s decade. But he definitely never drew a dime.

    Because you’d definitely know better than Vince, as to who was drawing money.

  • Rinn13

    Business was “in the crapper” after Vince’s steroid scandal. That affected ALL of wrestling, because Vince was knowingly allowing “Doctors” to be in his locker rooms, handing out roids and other drugs like candy. Because he wanted everyone to look “larger than life”. Because he’s been obsessed (suspiciously so) with buff guys forever.

    And if it wasn’t for Bret Hart becoming WWF’s new star, to replace Roided Hogan, Vince’s baby would have gone down the toilet. Period. Hart was a huge draw insomuch as he helped keep the damn company afloat. Business was bad for WCW and ECW too, until the late 90s. So thank for echoing my statement back at me, but you really SHOULD learn your history before talking.

  • Mike the Ike

    Tony Kahn is a mark who has little b*tch Cody in his ear. Bret never drew. Great wrestler? Absolutely, but definitely not a draw.

  • Mike the Ike

    Jake never needed the title. You put the title on guys who need it.

  • .

    The Undertaker? lol please. That man is a joke and hasn’t mattered since he was the American Badass and would never have held the title after 2002 if not for the brand split. I never said that Bret, Diesel, and HBK didn’t contribute, I said they weren’t draws, because they weren’t. I am well aware of the cyclical nature of the business, but had those guys been draws, business would have picked up prior to the nWo. The New Generation was one of the worst periods of wrestling in the last 40 years. I should know, I was around for Hulkamania.

  • JIFTheChosenOne

    If they were not draws, there would have been 0 paid attendance. The early to mid-90s were a HORRIBLE time for attendance numbers in general. After the “Steroid Era” or “Golden Age,” people generally stopped watching because they thought wrestling was fake.

    Even the mighty Hulk Hogan was getting his ass boied out of arenas, particularly in WCW, because the fans that remained were tired of his vitamins and prayers routine. They wanted something new, something fresh. Bret and Shawn – along with The Undertaker and The Outsiders – provided that. They gave wrestling an edge instead of the cartoon world Vince McMahon still lived in.

    Had Steve Austin and The Rock been champion at that time, attendance would still have been down in general.

    Just like the economy, wrestling goes through it’s business cycle. Personally, the New Generation was the era I grew up with, and I loved it. Bret, Shawn and The Undertaker were like rockstars. The same with Sting. To devalue their significant contribution to pro wrestling is asinine and ludicrous. NOBODY was rescuing the gate numbers until a paradigm shift took place, which finally happened in 1996-1997.

  • Nicholas Giambattista

    This coming from a guy who was never champion period.

  • D_Ohm

    Some distinction should be made that just because Jake doesn’t remember them that doesn’t mean everybody sober during that time frame have forgotten . Also Bret was the one who unveiled the AEW championship. Obviously Jake’s new employer holds Bret in some high regard.

  • Alex

    No doubt. They think what they see on TV should be compared to what they see in high school gyms. This is business, whoever draws the most money is the best.

  • .

    Accurate, sadly there are still too many marks around that think the best champ is the guy who knows a million submissions or high spots.

  • .

    Please try to learn actual history of the business before making such statements. Business was in the crapper during the mid 90’s when Hart, HBK, and Diesel were champs. They were not draws, which is the job of the champ. Therefore they some of the worst champs of all time.

  • Rinn13

    You know, I love Jake. He was a classic, iconic character. But his hot takes on certain things are laughable.

    He is correct about HBK, to a great degree. HBK was popular when he was a face, he was selling merch and, unbelievably for a character who was essentially a narcissistic male stripper, people (even kids) liked him. However, when he was champ the first time, and Bret was gone for much of 1996, business was down. THAT was the point when WCW, with the NWO angle, starting kicking the WWF’s a$$. Because their “top star”, was HBK, one of the most disingenuous “Good Guys” ever.

    AS a HEEL, he could be money, because he comes off as a believable jerk, and you want to see him get his. But as a babyface, as THE “Face of the Company”, he sucked. Especially because, in real life, behind the scenes, he refused to put people even, especially monsters. If he had done the right thing, and put over Vader, had Vince made Vader a monster champion to cap off his monster heel debut in 96, and then HBK had to chase Vader for the belt for awhile, THAT might have been different. Vader was a big deal when he first came to the WWF. Cornette was his mouthpiece, and he was a true monster, “injuring” Yokozuna, and destroying both faces and heels. He was a lone wolf, and a very serious threat to everyone. Then HBK refused to put him over, and after that, poor Vader became a cowardly, lame-duck heel from then on.

    Bret Hart though? Get real. Anyone who honestly thinks that Bret wasn’t a draw, and that includes veterans like Jake, don’t know the business, and don’t know what the hell they’re talking about. Bret is literally the guy who, after Vince got caught juicing up all of his body builder stars, put the company on his damn back, and carried it through the early-to-mid 90s. When Vince made the foolish choice to try and go BACK to Hogan in 93, having him come out and beat Yoko in seconds, after Yoko had JUST won the title, as a MONSTER heel, from Bret at WM9? Major blunder. WWF fans were over Hogan by that point. He had been on top for FAR too long, and business dipped when he was champ. But when Yoko got the belt back, and then fought Bret AGAIN at WM10 (even though Vince tried, and failed, to make Luger the next Hogan instead)? When Bret finally got his belt back at WM10, in Madison Square Garden, it was huge. He was THE face of the company, and should have remained so.

    Instead, Vince, still in love with his “big men”, put the belt on Diesel. Which is fine. Except the WAY he did it made everyone look bad. Bret lost the title to a legitimate and dangerous (and “crazy” at the time) old veteran, Bob Backlund. Then Diesel, at a HOUSE show of all places, beats him in seconds, for no good reason. Making Bob look weak, making Bret look weak. And then he proceeded to keep the title on Diesel for A YEAR, the biggest financial low point of WWF’s modern existence was 1995, the year he was champ. It isn’t that Diesel was a crappy champ. He just wasn’t a big enough draw to have the title on him long-term. Bret should have won the belt back from him sooner than he did.

    But the POINT is, Bret Hart WAS a big star in the 90s. He WAS a big draw, especially outside the US. Which isn’t to say he wasn’t a draw in the US, because he definitely was. Bret can very realistically be given a GOOD amount of credit for the WWF not going belly up in the early to mid 90s. Other stars deserve a slice of that credit too, like Undertaker, like Owen Hart, like Yokozuna, and even HBK. But there is no two ways about it. From 1992-1996, Bret was WWF’s top star. Not just because Vince pushed him, but because, as it’s SUPPOSED to work in this business, because the fans said so. He sold merch, he puts “butts in seats”, he helped grow the WWF’s international presence. A lot of fans were sick of Hogan. Bret was a “regular guy” alternative, who didn’t act like a cartoon character, he was soft spoken, and let him actions speak for him in the ring, by being arguably the best actual WRESTLER of his era. For all of it’s perceived goofiness, the “New Generation” era was, in large part because of Bret, defined by actual good WRESTLING, and not just goofy gimmicks, and puffed up, yelling muscle men. Because of Bret, you had great things like the rise of the King of the Ring, his feuds with Owen Hart, and Bob Backlund, and HBK ,etc. You had a focus on smaller, more versatile wrestlers like Mr. Perfect, and 123 Kid, and Owen Hart, and HBK, etc.

    No one is claiming that Bret Hart was the biggest star in wrestling history. But he certainly deserves recognition and respect as ONE of the very biggest stars in history. Hulk Hogan was, and is, no matter what WWE tries to claim now, pretty much THE top star in wrestling history, based on the fact that he was a cultural icon of the 80s. People who knew nothing about wrestling, knew who Hogan was, still do. You can’t say that about Stone Cold Steve Austin. His recognition and appeal didn’t have anywhere near the worldwide scope that Hogan did. The WWF got big ratings because of their Jerry Springer “Trash TV” antics in the “Attitude Era”, for sure. But Hogan was still a bigger star, in the mainstream. Bret Hart wasn’t the media darling, or the ratings darling, that they were. But what he WAS, was a legit-as-hell wrestler, a regular guy who kicked ass and took names, without beating his chest about it, without being a puffed up roid freak. He was what the business needed, especially the WWF, when they needed it. And frankly, he busted down the door for future “smaller” stars, for decades.

    But make no mistake, if Bret “hadn’t been a draw”, then the WWF would have gone out of business, long before Stone Cold or The Rock or DX were a twinkle in anyone’s eye.

  • Rinn13

    Please try to learn actual history of the business before making such statements.

  • F. Loyd B. Pippin

    The only person in WWE who could compare to Bret as a draw internationally was Andre the Giant. He was a huge money maker for the company internationally, not just in Canada. If he would have said Diesel, maybe he’d have a point.

  • Alex

    He isn’t wrong. This is a business, not an indy show. If they were good they would have drawn money. Look it up.

  • Alex

    This is a business. It doesn’t matter how good you are in the ring, the “best” in this business is the person who draws the most money. That wasn’t these guys.

  • CC

    It is sad what decades of substance abuse does to a human brain, even after you are finally sober.

  • Steven Davis

    I see he’s back on the crack.