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Shane Douglas Says Ric Flair Exposed Himself To Children, Criticizes Dixie Carter

Shane Douglas appeared on Busted Open, which airs every Monday and Wednesday on Sirius 92 and XM 207 from 2:00 to 4:00 p.m. Highlights from the interview are as follows:

Douglas on TNA Hardcore Justice: “They invited me, and offered such a ridiculously low sum of money, that I said “shove it up your backside.” When I had wrestled Chris Daniels at the PPV up in Auburn Hills, between the 2 televisions and the PPV itself, I made close to $12,000 dollars for those three appearances. They offered me for the, a meet and greet. They wanted me to open the PPV with a ‘Cut the F’n Music’ promo in the vein of ECW, and then they wanted me to work a match. So, basically two days of work, and they offered me an embarrassing amount of money.

My comeback to Terry Taylor at the time was, “Look, if you pay Hulk Hogan $35 grand a night, and you pay Ric Flair $17,500 a night, and you have no problem paying that, clearly they must not have a problem with it because they had a chance two or three weeks ago to let their contracts expire, and they re-signed both, all three of them, Bischoff included, and I said in the world of ECW, in that world, I’m bigger than Hogan, and I’m bigger than Flair. So, we’ll talk in those ball parks,” and the number they offered me; I wouldn’t work for somebody in the independent scene for.”

Douglas on Dixie Carter: “For somebody who’s grown up in a billionaire’s household obviously with a silver and golden spoon up her backside, and in her mouth. To offer these guys the poultry amount of money, and she offered most of these guys an absurdly low sum of money. Shame on her! A, for the fact that it was the highest grossing PPV they had last year; She offered them nothing additional, and offered them such a low sum of money, it seemed funny to me for the woman who told me, ‘Why would I want to copy ECW after all they’ve failed,’ and suddenly she’s begging the ECW alumni to come back and try to dig them out of their hole.

“I was gonna’ have no part of it. I wanted no part of..I’m very selective in where I allow the ECW legacy to be used, taken advantage of, and I’m not going to let somebody like Dixie Carter who has no respect for our business, and no, more to the point, no respect for the guys that built that company, and that’s evident in the pay that she gave. I have no interest in giving her any props or ups, or any under-handed pitches to allow her to prostitute the ECW legacy for her gain, as the guys don’t make a thing.

“My intent, clearly I wanted to send Dixie the message that I have no interest in allowing her to capitalize on what we had built, and she has no respect for. And I spoke to most of the guys afterwards, either immediately or afterwards at shows down the road. My intent was not to in anyway, undermine their ability for that show to succeed. And I have no interest in trying to make TNA destabilize. To the contrary, I see incredible possibility for TNA.

“Last year when they did, if it’s a misnomer, The Monday Night Wars; My 5-year-old was watching it, and so to keep myself entertained, I just sorta scribbled some notes to myself, and after 5 or 6 weeks, I had 27 pages of hand-written notes. I then wrote up in format form, Television format form that Dixie or anybody in TNA would be familiar with; I had 41 pages of single-spaced segments, and it was 41 pages, and I was gonna’ fax it to her free of, I wasn’t gonna’ ask for a dime. I didn’t want a job; I just wanted her to see what vision somebody else could have for her talent, her company, and the future of that company. I couldn’t even get the woman to call me back.

“(And that’s amazing to me for a person in wrestling that has spent the 10’s and dozens of millions of dollars of her gas money, and her dad’s company’s money; For the poultry return that they’ve gotten on that, they she wouldn’t want to at least take a look..She could read it, and call me up afterwards, and laugh in my face, and say, “I think that’s the biggest pile of garbage I ever read,” but to not even return the call seems to me that their there to show you that Dixie Carter clearly is not the person to be running TNA.”

Douglas on Ric Flair: “Ric was the reason I got into the business. I idolized him, and when I met him, he fell so far short of my expectations. Not as a wrestler, but as a man. Embarrassing the things that I’ve watched him do, pulling out his privates in front of children, in a bar full of children. Running up and down hallways naked. Things that to me, and just as a man, I don’t equivocate with being a man or a champion of a company, and the politics between us, and that I’ve watched him to do hold down all the young talent that came up. Look, no one was going to take Ric Flair’s spot. He’s The Nature Boy, Ric Flair!

“He’s an icon, but he was so worried looking over his shoulder at young guys coming up the ladder, you know, that I think if I tried from his career in later years, and I for one called him on it. For better or for worse, and then..and there’s been a lot of worse to it. I speak my mind, but nobody can come back and say, ‘You’re a liar, or you twisted the truth,” or whatever. These are the things that I witnessed and I watched, and to me, it’s all part and partial. ..You know wrestling didn’t come to this bad bottom point by accident or by one or two accidents. It’s been a quilt of bad decisions, and bad moves, and tough breaks, and whatever else.

“And when I met Ric Flair as a young guy coming up that ladder with stars in my eyes. I mean, I was a young, green..greener than goose crap kid coming up, and when I met him, I was so enthralled. Nature Boy Ric Flair, the greatest wrestler in the history of our business, and then sat back night after night, week after week, month after month , watching him act like a total jerk, and treat people like a total jerk. It didn’t work for me. It was like meeting your hero, and suddenly finding out he’s an idiot or a jerk, and then..for all those things. And I called him on it. I called him on it, and I guess he didn’t like it. Oh well! You know you got 2 choices, shut up or put your fists up, and he chose not to do the latter.”

  • marvin

    What Douglas meant was that Flair exposed himself but it was not intentionally to do it in front of children

    He was bringing up the fact that Flair is so into himself that he disregards the possibility of children being present in his quest to being a total jerk.

  • PinkSinCara

    Why were there children at a bar? Maybe he meant the monkey bars…

    Anyway…Dean Douglas sucks. That is all.

  • Nicholas G

    THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE!!! An if you don’t believe how bad TNA an is it is because you are to blind to see the truth. Dixie Carter has no clue on how to run a wrestling federation. She keeps out bidding her self with resigning Hogan, Flair, and Kurt Angle. All these guys that WWE has no interest in. I mean really you think anybody going to pay to see these guys wrestle anymore because I sure an not. I am also not to surprise about Ric Flair. Yeah he is one of the greatest of all time in the ring. But outside don’t think he is that good what so every. An there is a reason why Ric Flair is flat out broke right now it is because he can’t handle himself outside the ring. An the same can go with Hogan. That is the reason why neither Hogan or Flair are not retired.

  • b c mitchell

    In the context he used it Douglas was correct. In the realm of the ECW universe he is to that company what Hogan and Flair were to WWF and WCW,respectively. He is a bit of a blowhard but there is a reason he’s known as The Franchise when talking about ECW. Plus its been well reported that as great as Flair was in the ring he was just as big a douchebag outside of it.

  • Sweet Stan

    This is why Douglas is a greeter at walmart now. When you talk smack about those that would pay you… you dont get paid no mo…lol

  • venom

    So if Flair really did flash children, why wasn’t he arrest? Douglas said no to TNA, because he wants to use his ECW skills in the stock room at Target. So now we have Dreamer that thinks his feud with Raven is up there with Bret Hart and HBK. Now Douglas thinks he’s up there with Flair and Hogan. These ECW wash ups need to stop thinking they were mega stars. Douglas needs to STFU. Now I know why he had a black eye when I met him last month.

  • Buttercastle

    Unless they are being paid in chickens like the olden days.

  • Steve

    The person that transcribed this needs to learn the difference between “poultry” and “paltry”.

  • JIR

    well if they were at a college bar they could have been flairs kids

  • ironcross

    a bar isn’t for kids*

  • ironcross

    my question is why are children in a bar? a far isn’t for children, thats the drunken parents fault this is why shane will always be remembered as a no body that wasn’t pushed to his potential. he is a dickhead

  • Bawb


    I think that was Justin Credible. I thought Douglas was a teacher?

  • MrDr3w

    Didn’t this guy used to work at Target?

  • Logan

    DDDDDDDDAAAAMMMMMMNNNNNN $35,000 for limping to the ring! I need to turn pro now! lol

  • DuffManLovesHimSomeWrestling

    Sry Tom but that is a retarded thing to say… He is in his 60’s so if he were to go to a bar and everyone was in their 30’s or 40’s, they are children? No.

    @Im a dude
    You are thinking Sandman. Douglas is the one who is only remembered for loosing his lunch in the ring.

  • Tom R.

    If Ric Flair goes to a bar and he’s 20-30 years older than everyone else, then yeah he’s in a bar full of children. im a dude needs to learn not to take stuff so literally. Also, I think that you are confusing Shane Douglas and Sandman.

  • im a dude

    in a bar full of children????wtf kinda bar were they hanging out in?shane douglas isint shit just a cry baby that no one wants to see or companys want he should be greatful that someone would even offer him anything to appear at there show…what has he done smash a few beer cans on his head??lol f off shane douglas you suck

  • Bawb

    Eddie Izzard* has spoken.

  • BlaH

    The Franchise has spoken