According to Mediate, George Conway, a conservative lawyer and former husband of Kellyanne Conway, former senior White House adviser to ex-President Donald Trump, spoke with Anderson Cooper on CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360 about the recent developments in Special Counsel Jack Smith’s investigation into Trump.
According to Conway, the evidence against Trump is overwhelming and incriminating. He stated that even before the recent additional charges, the authorities had a “smoking arsenal” of evidence against the former president. Conway compared Trump to a “never-ending bottomless pit of illegality,” emphasizing the extensive nature of the evidence against him.
The recent charges filed by Special Counsel Jack Smith include one count of unlawful retention of National Defense Information and two obstruction counts. The obstruction allegations are based on claims that Trump and his co-defendants, Walt Nauta and Carlos De Oliveira, attempted to delete surveillance video footage at The Mar-a-Lago Club in the summer of 2022.
Conway highlighted how the recent charges add to the already extensive evidence of Trump’s potential wrongdoing. He described Trump’s behavior as obstructing justice about his prior attempts to obstruct justice, creating a cycle of criminality. The lawyer compared Trump’s actions to a “Matryoshka doll of criminality,” referencing the Russian nesting dolls known for their multiple layers.
Furthermore, Conway expressed concern about Trump involving lower-level employees, such as property management workers and loyalists like Walt Nauta, in his alleged illegal activities. He noted that these individuals might not have the resources to defend themselves legally, making them vulnerable and exposing them to potential repercussions.
COOPER: What stood out to you?
GEORGE CONWAY, CONSERVATIVE LAWYER AND WASHINGTON POST CONTRIBUTING COLUMNIST: I mean, everything stands out to me and they have him dead to rights. They had him dead to rights back when they executed the search warrant, and they came up with those documents.
I mean, there is literally a smoking arsenal here. I mean, people are making a big deal about what we saw in the superseding indictment yesterday, but the fact of the matter is, it’s just icing on a very, very large cake of mind bogglingly inculpatory evidence against Donald Trump. I mean, he’s like a never ending bottomless pit of illegality.
I mean, here, he is basically, by asking his workers to destroy the videotape. I mean, he was obstructing justice, but maybe he wasn’t just obstructing justice, he was obstructing justice about his prior efforts to obstruct justice, because those videotapes showed how he and Walt Nauta moving these boxes around and it was just like in the Mueller report, the Mueller report explains how Trump tried to get his White House counsel to get the special counsel, then Bob Mueller to resign.
And then when it hits the newspapers that he did that, Trump asked the White House counsel to write a false memo saying that it didn’t happen. And again, he’s obstructing justice about obstructing justice.
He’s like, a Matryoshka doll of criminality, this man, and it’s just — he is not making it any easier for himself anything. It’s sort of he’s being unfair himself, because he’s making it so easy for prosecutors. One-tenth of the evidence that they have could put him away for the rest of his life.
COOPER: I mean, I guess it shouldn’t surprise anybody but it is still, to me disturbing the degree to which he had no compunction about involving, you know, a guy who works in the property management and this guy, Nauta, who you know, is clearly are loyal to him, but you know, low-level employees who can’t afford attorneys of their own.
I mean, these are the people he reached down to, to do his dirty work and they were scurrying around, you know, asking questions about — you know, they didn’t know how to erase the security cameras. And so now they expose themselves to other people, because they’re asking, you know, again, because that’s what the boss wants.